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If UK beats UF Saturday I still see a path to an NCAA at large bid

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HerrosHeroes

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Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
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Mitch has to leave the room when UK is discussed. Don’t think SC and A&M will both be made up. Maybe SC.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
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I hate myself for this but I agree.
 
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The_Answer1313_rivals

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Honestly

48th in Sagarin
49th in Kenpom

We actually aren't too far off.


The thing is ..........8-13. Even with a run of wins at the end of the season, you are never getting in like that.

We are better than the record and the advanced metrics bear that out, but there's still a lot tied to the simple W/L record.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
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You're certifiable.

UK's ONLY chance is to win the SEC tourney. Best case scenario to accomplish that would be to finish in the top 4 and get a double-bye but, I don't know if that is even possible now.

Even if this UK team won the SEC-T and played in the NCAA tournament as a AQ, it could very easily get beat in the opening round.
There is NO WAY possible for UK to get in as a At Large team.
 
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Kingslayer07

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I mean, they have Minnesota still in, and they haven't won 1 single road game. So I guess it's still possible
 
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If we don’t win SEC tourney, we won’t be in regardless. We can win out in awesome fashion, beating each team by 25, but if we lose that SEC title game, it’s over. But we will win the SECT. I know it. We have to, my son will be heart broken if we don’t, and I can’t have that.
 
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I think, given the number of canceled games, the fact that some teams played 6-7 cupcakes and others like Kentucky played 1, that overall record is not going to be a key measure.

Conference record will be more crucial, because it is closer to apples-to-apples

I don't think it will happen, but if Kentucky wins out to be 11-7 in conference, and maybe wins two games in the SEC tournament, you are telling me that would be worse than someone 8-11 in the Big Ten, who loses in the first or second round?
 
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If we are a game over .500 and beat quality teams like ark Alabama tenn fla we could lose sect championship and get in. We would undoubtedly get a 12 seed play in game in Dayton but if we make it to Sunday and win out Reg season we will get in. Too many bad teams and and that type of a run would probably put us top 40 in NET which is all we need
 
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Just don’t see UK getting in with a losing record and so many bad losses. SECT win the only way.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
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IIRC, in 1985 UK was 18-13 and barely got in as a 12 seed.

Don't see how 15-14 gets UK in unless UK is the 16th seed or one of the last four in.
 
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I just don't see a path unless we win the SEC tournament, I'm sure the committee will say we don't deserve a bid with our record. Then the NCAA would be rewarding mediocrity something Kentucky fans have always said about letting certain teams in that didn't deserve it. Kentucky did get in with a 16 and 12 record in 84-85 and beat two good teams in UNLV and Washington but lost our next game to St. Johns. I do think they were deserving that year despite the sub par record KY did belong but I also remember everybody being worried we would not get in. This team took took long to get going, the SEC tournament is our only chance.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Act, are you saying that 15-14 wouldnt get UK in, that we wont go 15-14 or both?
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If we win the sec tourney. I hope you are right. I’ve been a fan a long time and like the way the cats are playing. I like your optimism and hope you are right. I’d like to see a miracle run like 2014. That was fun.
 
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HerrosHeroes

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For you SEC standing gurus: if UK finishes 10-7 could we only play 3 games in the SECT?

What are the chances of that happening?
I mean getting a high enough seed to get a bye? Is it likely? What has to happen because I think we run the table in the SEC?

Also even if we do Im not convinced 14-14 wouldnt sneak us in the back door of the ballroom with Mitch propping the door open for UK.

You would be talking about UK finishing their last 10 games at 9-1 including a 9 game win streak with the likely hood of a top 10 SOS being great.

Oh this could get real interesting. Heck, Im predicting it will.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
If Cal adds one more OOC game for next Thursday 16-13 is unless we achieve a 1st rd bye in the SECT during our late season pillage.
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Betting that doesn’t happen. Beating some scrub for an extra win is not going to make a difference. It’s SECT title or bust.

Dreams die first
 
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Georgia got in as an at-large when Harrick was coach with a 16-14 record but RPI had their schedule as the #2 toughest in the country that year. That's the worst record I can remember off the top of my head.
 
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m080470 said:
Georgia got in as an at-large when Harrick was coach with a 16-14 record but RPI had their schedule as the #2 toughest in the country that year. That's the worst record I can remember off the top of my head.
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For the record, 11 teams have made the tourney as at large teams with 14 losses. Ironically, 5 of those occurred in 2001 when UGA under Harrick made it. That was the year they added the extra 4 teams so maybe that contributed to that, that year.

16-14 was the worst record, happened also with Villanova in 1991. One had 17-14 but most of the others had anywhere from 19-21 wins.
 
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Cal not adding 1-2 games recently, winnable games, was an egregious error. He has to know he needs every W the program can find otherwise winning the SECT is mandatory to play in the NCAAT. Nobody cares what the SOS or KenPom is when the team has a losing record overall.
 
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One thing to remember about UK getting in, the BBN.

We are nuts, crazy, over-the-top, filled with clowns, trolls, and goofs. But, we watch more than anyone else in America.

Those Dayton games don't get the best ratings. Put UK in the late night as a 12 play-in and you get MANY more viewers than anyone else.

I think we get a play-in even if we pull it off at the SECT.
 
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ruppcat said:
IIRC, in 1985 UK was 18-13 and barely got in as a 12 seed.

Don't see how 15-14 gets UK in unless UK is the 16th seed or one of the last four in.
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Yeah, but they didn't use today's metrics back then. They have legit data that tells them who should be in.

UK needs to win out and get that net ranking as high as possible and get above 500. Try like hell to win the SECT, but if we don't win it, maybe a 15-14 record with a low 40's net gets us in.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
For you SEC standing gurus: if UK finishes 10-7 could we only play 3 games in the SECT?

What are the chances of that happening?
I mean getting a high enough seed to get a bye? Is it likely? What has to happen because I think we run the table in the SEC?

Also even if we do Im not convinced 14-14 wouldnt sneak us in the back door of the ballroom with Mitch propping the door open for UK.

You would be talking about UK finishing their last 10 games at 9-1 including a 9 game win streak with the likely hood of a top 10 SOS being great.

Oh this could get real interesting. Heck, Im predicting it will.
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You gotta let the Mitch thing go, he will have zero say in what happens or doesn't happen with UK. He's not allowed to. He has to literally leave the room when UK is discussed.
 
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HerrosHeroes said:
Let me explain:

UK would not only be on a nice 4 gm win streak but would have defeated back to back top 25 teams in UT and UF.

Furthermore, we would have 4 Quad 1 wins over LSU, UT and UF x 2.
Also, we have very few “bad” losses.

Our SOS is still top 10 at 7 and should stay there or move up slightly after Sat. as UF is ranked #27 via KP:


Now, a win Sat puts UK at 9-13 and we still have at Ole Miss a top 50 team as well as 2 very winnable SEC makeup games in South Carolina and Texas AM both in Ky.

Win all three of them and suddenly UK is not only 12-13 but is on an impressive 7 game win streak headed to Music City for the SECT.

Go 3-1 in the SECT and we finish 15-14 with a SOS undoubtedly in the top 10 nationally
while finishing the season 10-1.

Mitch who is the NCAA selection committee chair will see to it that UK dances.
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This team does not deserve to be in the tourney. They are a COMPLETE DISGRACE ! Furthermore you are kidding yourself if you think they have turned it around.

They WILL let you down.
 
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