Look how much emphasis the ref puts into making the charge call. He really wanted everyone to know he was making the call. Again their egos tell them we are paying to watch them.
Remove the charge call.
Punish flopping.
Make refs do post game press conferences and answer for their bad calls.
Look how much emphasis the ref puts into making the charge call. He really wanted everyone to know he was making the call. Again their egos tell them we are paying to watch them.
You're right. The refs should have to answer to message board posters instead.You lost me on this one. Do you really want someone, anyone, to have to answer to the "media"? When did the media get the expertise, judgement, and credibility needed to supervise people?
Message board posters are sometimes right. The media hacks only report news that supports their agenda.You're right. The refs should have to answer to message board posters instead.
Or can it be fixed? It’s beyond words infuriating.
An actual dunk of the year candidate was just taken away
From a rules standpoint is this.Remove the charge call.
Punish flopping.
Make refs do post game press conferences and answer for their bad calls.
He was not set bro, regardless it was a caught up in the moment call by the official. Just didn’t know for sure so let’s award the home team just like the touchy fouls at the end when Vandy was in bonus.You do, and that’s exactly what the Vandy player did
Easy, have accountability
Looks like a tie on that play with the feet. Brooks starts to jump as the Vandy guy lands in front of him. Brooks had no chance to avoid him with how late the Vandy player arrives.
The Vandy guy has to straighten up as Brooks was in the air and the Vandy guy was on his toes making himself flop back from the contact. It should be like in baseball where if the runner and the ball get to the base at the same time the offensive player gets the call.
Message board posters are sometimes right. The media hacks only report news that supports their agenda.
Looks like a tie on that play with the feet. Brooks starts to jump as the Vandy guy lands in front of him. Brooks had no chance to avoid him with how late the Vandy player arrives.
The Vandy guy has to straighten up as Brooks was in the air and the Vandy guy was on his toes making himself flop back from the contact. It should be like in baseball where if the runner and the ball get to the base at the same time the offensive player gets the call.
Galloped pirouetted and a three quarter flipIf it was TV Teddy he would've galloped to the 3-point line before giving the charge signal.
I think officiating's been better this year for the most part. Refs love to play to a wild home crowd if they're the underdog. It allows them to gesture with enthusiasm/flex their muscles, bully the coach and generally act like some badass, and not having fans in the stands has taken that away. But last night was tough to watch.
NBA officiating is on another level. There's too much favoritism and corruption in college hoops for it to ever change.
That may be the operative word, (fixed). No just kidding, but the one thing I would do to help it is encourage the zebras to get in better position to make the call. To many times the bad calls are caused because of the ref being behind two players and they are guessing what happened. That dunk was awesome!Or can it be fixed? It’s beyond words infuriating.
An actual dunk of the year candidate was just taken away
They have to justify some of these horrible calls. Who oversees this BS... same guys .. it never improves.. they blow some many calls.Or can it be fixed? It’s beyond words infuriating.
An actual dunk of the year candidate was just taken away
Excellent post ! This would take a lot of the BS officials no one gives a damn about. It is a absolute joke watching some of these calls.Can’t change the refs so change the game ...
- Go to 6 fouls, not 5 for disqualification
- Change to a quarters system like every other level of basketball.
Less disqualifications and sitting talent for long periods in foul trouble...and fewer bonus FTs since the bonus starts over each quarter so when fouls happen just side out = more game action and games decided by players not a FT shooting contest or game of attrition the college game has become and really hard to watch and enjoy at times even in years we are winning.
Now just convince the coaches to agree to it. Coach K gets 1/2 his wins playing the foul game to thier favor. So won’t happen till he leaves.
Or can it be fixed? It’s beyond words infuriating.
An actual dunk of the year candidate was just taken away
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First and foremost, we must get rid of the block/charge call...a defender, especially one who has to give help and is not the first person guarding a driving offensive player, should not be allowed to step in front of the driver at the last second...or at all. Last night that went against Brooks who got by his man and had a lane to the basket until the feet of the help-side second defender got set a split second before he set his feet and jumped. That's a bad rule. Why do we force an offensive player to beat a second person? Further, we have to simplify this for the refs who get it wrong a lot--recently, replays show defenders almost always moving laterally at least a little bit to ensure square contact from the offensive player. That used to guarantee a blocking foul. In my opinion, we should do away with the charging foul. If you get a lane to the basket, the defense has to do the best they can without contacting you to defend your shot attempt. It will be fair for everyone. Additionally, if you have two players running down the court away from the action or ball and the defender steps in front to impede progress, it should be a foul on the defender unless an obvious move is made by the offensive player to initiate contact. Dan Issel fouled out of his last game on a gut-less play like this
Referees are also not great at calling traveling violations. They just need to have recurring training on this, as I think they get faked out a lot. They also need to call a little more of carrying the basketball, as this can give anyone who does it a significant advantage when trying to fake or get by their defender. I see this a good amount in both men's and women's games and it no longer seems to be a point of emphasis.
Post defense a.k.a. "mugging" needs to stop. Too much contact is allowable against the offensive player when trying to establish position close to the basket or on the low block. You have to figure that any contact made on the low block is initiated every time by the defense. They either will root the post player out of or off the low block, or will block their cuts to the block.
Overall, I would try to keep it simple for the refs. In a fast-paced game like this with great athletes, that is a difficult chore.
Or can it be fixed? It’s beyond words infuriating.
An actual dunk of the year candidate was just taken away
After reading Ron Luciano's The Umpire Strikes Back, I don't know why anyone would ever want to be an umpire/referee. It really struck me when Luciano wrote "Umpiring is best described as the profession of standing between two seven-year-olds with one ice cream cone. Every decision you make is going to anger half the people."
Yep. The defender is most always moving.That arc under the basket needs to be moved way out. It’s beyond clear the charge/block call involving secondary defenders simply can not be officiated correctly. In truth, when you watch the replays, they’re almost all blocks.
Maybe if the policy was to give the offense the benefit of the doubt it would helpThe Brooks call was close...so close that IMO I've got a block there. Anything that close goes in favor of the offensive player. Didn't like that call.
This is an important distinction. What people refer to as “being set” often means that the defender is standing still in a spot waiting to be decked by the offensive player. You can be moving and draw a charge if you are in legal guarding position. This is more commonly seen in on-ball primary defense than the secondary defender moving over for a charge, but both are possible.The Vandy player established legal guarding position (just) before Brooks jumped, which is what is required by the rule book. (And the rule book specifically states that there’s no time or distance requirement
It is true the Vandy player went vertically up on his toes during the play while Brooks was in the air but that’s allowed.
The most important part, it is not when he lifts off.This is an important distinction. What people refer to as “being set” often means that the defender is standing still in a spot waiting to be decked by the offensive player. You can be moving and draw a charge if you are in legal guarding position. This is more commonly seen in on-ball primary defense than the secondary defender moving over for a charge, but both are possible.
However, in this case I don’t feel the Vandy player established legal guarding position in time. He hopped out of the restricted circle as Brooks was gathering and hadn’t established position outside of the circle until Brooks was in the air.
How could a 1000 people be wrong? (Sarcasm)Message board posters are sometimes right. The media hacks only report news that supports their agenda.
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