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[GonzoCat90]

Yes, I know, now what does that mean? Are they paying for room and board at Harvard or SENW Louisiana Tech? The program must have set details, somewhere.

And how much for their individual trainers?! Those don't all cost the same. What about meal plans? Does Green have to eat the same food as Todd?

What does it matter? What's the point you're trying to get at? Because it comes across like you're trying to lessen it instead of admitting that the contract provides the education you claimed it didnt provide.

Jalen Green was going to go to Memphis for a year before being a top 10 pick. But instead he has a full scholarship, financial literacy classes, etc. What detail are you looking for that makes that a worse deal for him?

 

[UK90]

I don't really see what the big deal is, college basketball was fine in the 90s early 2000s when prospects jumped straight to the pros. How is this any different? Even if they end up consistently getting 5-10 elite guys a year, there are still thousands of players left over.

This is my take on this. There's no reason for college basketball fans to get upset over this. Just let them go. The sport will be fine without those players.

The sport was in better shape in the pre-one and done era when the top ranked guys were skipping CBB for the draft, so why do we think it's such a bad thing if some now start skipping for the G-League?

 

[GonzoCat90]

The sport was fine in the pre OaD era because the culture was still that guys who weren't jumping to the pros were sticking around.

It's fine if Garnett and Kobe make the leap when Duncan and Ray Allen and Iverson give you multiple years.

If Garnett and Kobe go pro, Iverson and company go to the G League, and the next tier of guys has 40% leave after one year in college, it doesn't take long to get a really weak product.

 

[UKBigBoardUpdate]

That's a sweet deal. NCAA needs to step up their game

 

[anon1763419335]

This is my take on this. There's no reason for college basketball fans to get upset over this. Just let them go. The sport will be fine without those players.

The sport was in better shape in the pre-one and done era when the top ranked guys were skipping CBB for the draft, so why do we think it's a bad thing if some start skipping for the G-League instead?

depends on how you define "fine". kids could go pro after just 1 season during the pre 1 and done era. and they did. most just didnt. it was taboo at that time. but that was 20 years ago. 15-16-17 year olds today werent even alive during the start of that era.

there will never be a rule that makes a kid stay in college. and SGA or herro who comes in will still leave after a year. so now college misses out on obvious star talent, fringe nba talent, and anyone who has a great year will leave early. i struggle with the notion that the product will be better when it has the least talented players in it.

 

[bradscats]

And what happens to the ones that go to college and are just really bad? There are no guarantees either way.

We've had a lot of five star prospects that spent years at UK yet were still considered undraftable when they left (with this year's example being EJ). If they'd gone this route then at least they would've gotten a paycheck during those spent years.

No there isn’t. But guys that go to college have 4 chances to have a good season that can get them a pro contract. If these guys are bad in their one year, as an 18 year old, is there a chance they are finished?

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Yes, I know, now what does that mean? Are they paying for room and board at Harvard or SENW Louisiana Tech? The program must have set details, somewhere.

https://budgeting.thenest.com/full-scholarship-mean-23932.html

Your initial argument was "have an education to fall back on" are you now changing it to a Harvard education? Now that it's been proven that they will get a full ride you wanna worry about the quality/ prestige of the University.

Im sure the player will get a full ride to any institution that they can get admitted to (grades, ACT, etc).

 

[Wildcats1st]

No, he is not. This was talked about on Twitter by some NBA/college analysts. Kuminga will be 18 in September and this developmental aspect of the G League only requires them to have finished high school (which he could do by re-classifying this spring).

Well they are wrong bc G league states they must be 18 before September 15th and kuminga won’t be 18 until October.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...fessional-path-official-release?client=safari

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

And how much for their individual trainers?! Those don't all cost the same. What about meal plans? Does Green have to eat the same food as Todd?

What does it matter? What's the point you're trying to get at? Because it comes across like you're trying to lessen it instead of admitting that the contract provides the education you claimed it didnt provide.

Jalen Green was going to go to Memphis for a year before being a top 10 pick. But instead he has a full scholarship, financial literacy classes, etc. What detail are you looking for that makes that a worse deal for him?

I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Your initial argument was "have an education to fall back on" are you now changing it to a Harvard education? Now that it's been proven that they will get a full ride you wanna worry about the quality/ prestige of the University.

Im sure the player will get a full ride to any institution that they can get admitted to (grades, ACT, etc).

I'm not changing anything. It's great that is being offered to select players. I want to know what its limits are. You totally missed the point.

 

[GonzoCat90]

I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.

The value is going to change depending on the school they choose. Why does it matter if it's $120k for a kid going to Memphis or $125k for a kid going to Michigan?

Do you parse the same numbers when kids are making their college choice, or why does the "actual value" matter here?

What do you mean trainers are irrelevant? Whose career is over?

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Kids go to college for professional careers.

If you are going to pursue a professional basketball career, then Cal offers that path.

The G-League also offers you an instant professional career.

College is no longer necessary.

 

[Mad Max]

Bet it’s a guy Cal “missed on”

 

[Panthur]

CBB had a good run.

 

[anon1763419335]

The value is going to change depending on the school they choose. Why does it matter if it's $120k for a kid going to Memphis or $125k for a kid going to Michigan?

Do you parse the same numbers when kids are making their college choice, or why does the "actual value" matter here?

What do you mean trainers are irrelevant? Whose career is over?

it also doesnt matter because if they wish, NBA will just continue to evolve it. they control the terms. and they can make them whatever they want.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

No there isn’t. But guys that go to college have 4 chances to have a good season that can get them a pro contract. If these guys are bad in their one year, as an 18 year old, is there a chance they are finished?

That brings up an interesting point. I assume these are 1 year contracts. What happens when they aren't good enough for the NBA draft yet and really underwhelmed during the G-League. Do they get another big contract with the perks or do they get relegated.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The value is going to change depending on the school they choose. Why does it matter if it's $120k for a kid going to Memphis or $125k for a kid going to Michigan?

Do you parse the same numbers when kids are making their college choice, or why does the "actual value" matter here?

What do you mean trainers are irrelevant? Whose career is over?

They aren't going to school until their career is over, correct? Come on Gonzo. At that point, why would they need trainers. They are done, supposedly transitioning into students to prepare themselves for the rest of their lives. Where do you come up with 120K, that is my question. Are their limits on this so called full scholarship, which usually only means tuition by the way.

 

[Soupbean]

If these guys work out next season then this G League thing could be a real threat. They have now landed 3 top 20 guys from this class.

Maybe short term but who's going to suppor the league financially? I wont watch or buy a ticket to minor league basketball? Thats why im not worried about it. College basketball's draw is not just the player level its the tradition and atmosphere that make it appealing and marketable. Minor leagues in any pro sport are not.

 

[GonzoCat90]

They aren't going to school until their career is over, correct? Come on Gonzo. At that point, why would they need trainers. They are done, supposedly transitioning into students to prepare themselves for the rest of their lives. Where do you come up with 120K, that is my question. Are their limits on this so called full scholarship, which usually only means tuition by the way.

What do you think a trainer does? For someone so worried about every detail of the contract you seem hellbent on either misunderstanding or misrepresenting it. That's a coincidence, I'm sure.


I made up the numbers to show you that they don't matter at all. If you think the G League is paying Jalen Green $500,000 and then is going to try and be like "lol jokes on you sucker you have to pay $400 for your books!" I don't know what to tell you.

But feel free to keep digging this hole. It's important that you weren't completely wrong until Aaron Goodwin posts Jalen's full contract here for us to read.

 

[anon1763419335]

Maybe short term but who's going to suppor the league financially? I wont watch or buy a ticket to minor league basketball? Thats why im not worried about it. College basketball's draw is not just the player level its the tradition and atmosphere that make it appealing and marketable. Minor leagues in any pro sport are not.

the NBA, who brings in 10B a year. how much does UK bring in to pay for its basketball costs? is it 10B?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

What do you think a trainer does? For someone so worried about every detail of the contract you seem hellbent on either misunderstanding or misrepresenting it. That's a coincidence, I'm sure.


I made up the numbers to show you that they don't matter at all. If you think the G League is paying Jalen Green $500,000 and then is going to try and be like "lol jokes on you sucker you have to pay $400 for your books!" I don't know what to tell you.

But feel free to keep digging this hole. It's important that you weren't completely wrong until Aaron Goodwin posts Jalen's full contract here for us to read.

I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.

https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-gleague-education-program-game-plan-arizona-state/

 

[Blueaz]

This is my take on this. There's no reason for college basketball fans to get upset over this. Just let them go. The sport will be fine without those players.

The sport was in better shape in the pre-one and done era when the top ranked guys were skipping CBB for the draft, so why do we think it's such a bad thing if some now start skipping for the G-League?

it was not then...only very few went. AND the rest stayed 2-4 years...
Now, it would be...15 at least go and another huge amount being OADs...IMO

 

[GonzoCat90]

I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.

https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-gleague-education-program-game-plan-arizona-state/

You're wrong about whatever you apparently think a trainer is.

The rest you seem to be just looking to ask questions that the answers don't matter to. I'm glad you found your own answers. I'm sure it makes the whole G League idea bad again.

 

[UKnCincy_rivals]

I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.

https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-gleague-education-program-game-plan-arizona-state/

That’s the program for G League players (i.e., players who have contracts with teams).

Green is part of the pathway program and has a different contract. The scholarship associated with his contract is a full scholarship at the school of his choice.

 

[stoneycat_20]

I think you meant, 'will continue to suck'. Kentucky football is better than Texas basketball.

Texas will be very good..they return everyone+Brown

 

[anon1763419335]

as we get into summer/fall and if there is uncertainty about college sports, i wouldnt be surprised to see a few more players swap out of commitments. sit around and wait for college ball to start vs, get paid a few hundred grand to train in an academy.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

That’s the program for G League players (i.e., players who have contracts with teams).

Green is part of the pathway program and has a different contract. The scholarship associated with his contract is a full scholarship at the school of his choice.

Ah, interesting. I just figured I could see it actually spelled out somewhere.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

You're wrong about whatever you apparently think a trainer is.

The rest you seem to be just looking to ask questions that the answers don't matter to. I'm glad you found your own answers. I'm sure it makes the whole G League idea bad again.

Ok gonzo, what is a trainer and what does it have to do with post career education?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

You're wrong about whatever you apparently think a trainer is.

The rest you seem to be just looking to ask questions that the answers don't matter to. I'm glad you found your own answers. I'm sure it makes the whole G League idea bad again.

Did you get up on the wrong side of bed or something? I think I've said twice now that its a good thing, I just like details.

 

[Poetax]

I agree but he was linked. Christopher is another good one

And unlinked.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Ok gonzo, what is a trainer and what does it have to do with post career education?

A trainer is what a trainer has been in sports in every instance my entire life. It has nothing to do with post career education.

 

[know1]

I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.

The value is in the training, development, exposure, etc. Money is secondary. It's also not about exposure. It's a better path to the pros than college.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

A trainer is what a trainer has been in sports in every instance my entire life. It has nothing to do with post career education.

Exactly and I never brought one up, you did.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The value is in the training, development, exposure, etc. Money is secondary. It's also not about exposure. It's a better path to the pros than college.

You think G-League exposure will be better than top level college programs? I don't. What makes it a better path?

 

[GonzoCat90]

Exactly and I never brought one up, you did.

Jesus Christ.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Jesus Christ.

Why are you so hung up on trainers? I have always been talking about post career education in this. You brought up trainers for some odd reason that I apparently don't understand.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Did you get up on the wrong side of bed or something? I think I've said twice now that its a good thing, I just like details.

The issue is every time you are given answers, you move the goalpost. They are given a full ride. For whatever reason any cost isn't covered (which I doubt) I'm sure the student would be permitted to hit up Aunt Sallie Mae for a loan like 99% of the rest of college attendees.

 

[anon1763419335]

You think G-League exposure will be better than top level college programs? I don't. What makes it a better path?

did you read what that guy wrote....

 

[drbubba]

Maybe it's the Dragon?

He's gonna be dragon his tail overseas or maybe playing with Sydney Deane in Venice Beach.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Why would the NBA set a deadline that only helps the colleges? Why would the NBA set an obligation the kids have to meet for the college? How would they even enforce that?

If this is about the kids, let them go through the process, weigh their options, and then decide.

I do not know, maybe to work with the NCAA so that kids do not squander a chance to get some college education and / or a year under their belt for the ones that are not ready for the G-League even if the player thanks they are. Well hell just let kids that are sophomores and JR's go if THEY feel they are ready. NBA just wants talent. Which is NOT the case. The NBA just wants the true One and Done "can't miss" kids. I can guarantee you they do not want 30-40 high school kids a year jumping on board. they do not have time / resources to try and evaluate that many kids at one time. remember, there are only so many teams and roster spots, they will try and work to some capacity with the NCAA. They almost have to. if would benefit both to have a deadline and parameters for players that qualify for G-League.