fire away popeye
^ 100% adding that to my everyday language.
^ 100% adding that to my everyday language.
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Its all my opinion, sure. But one that is shared by many. Including a global health infectious disease attending of mine who consults with the WHO and went to Liberia for Ebola.
No one is saying this definitely will turn into crisis. But you have to take drastic measures. The risk of not doing so is too high. Read a few of the links I’ve posted. You’re exactly right, there is middle ground. And that’s where we are right now. We’ve taken half-measures so far. We’re literally in the middle ground. Trump has shown he’s only willing to do what is necessary to protect economic prospects so far, because *nothing* his administration has done has helped the actual medical community. Maybe it’s the correct way to go, I don’t know. But in my opinion the risk is too high.
Northern Italy has stopped elective procedures and are using operating room ventilators as ICU rooms/beds. I’m not critical care fellowship trained, but I can run a basic ICU in a pinch. But I really, really, really don’t want to have to do that. I’d rather take drastic action for a few weeks and see how things pan out than only half *** it and then we’re really gonna be kicking ourselves.
No one is saying this definitely will turn into crisis. But you have to take drastic measures. The risk of not doing so is too high. Read a few of the links I’ve posted. You’re exactly right, there is middle ground. And that’s where we are right now. We’ve taken half-measures so far. We’re literally in the middle ground. Trump has shown he’s only willing to do what is necessary to protect economic prospects so far, because *nothing* his administration has done has helped the actual medical community. Maybe it’s the correct way to go, I don’t know. But in my opinion the risk is too high.
Northern Italy has stopped elective procedures and are using operating room ventilators as ICU rooms/beds. I’m not critical care fellowship trained, but I can run a basic ICU in a pinch. But I really, really, really don’t want to have to do that. I’d rather take drastic action for a few weeks and see how things pan out than only half *** it and then we’re really gonna be kicking ourselves.
It would be refreshing to see you (and the media) talk about the high recovery rate of this vs. the gloom and doom and how we are all going to perish due to lack of resources.
UKO sells skid loaders and tractors for a living. He knows what TF he’s talking about.
I’m sure he’d take the time, but he’s prolly tired of working triple shifts and watching people whither into powder.
CB, who are the people dying in Italy? Is it mostly people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s? And what is the recovery rate of people under 60? Asking because there are mixed signals from the media on this.
Read his medical blog... it’s sobering. Healthy people in their 20’s have fatalities.
Jersey guy in 30’s is failing in critical condition.
this is not the typical flu.
Germany isn’t going to try to take over the world....
UKO circa 1939
UKO circa 1939
Rogan podcast changed my stance a bit. It's pretty informative and obviously that dude knows what he's talking about.
Smokers and diabetics are also high risk. So not just the olds.
Smokers and diabetics are also high risk. So not just the olds.
NCAA tournament will be cancelled within hour, IMO. Coaches now talking about how their players were afraid to play in the conference tournaments.
BE Commish just on TV now...
I’m being completely serious when I say that it’s almost impossible to be as ignorant as UKO. That idiot just continues to outdo himself.
Italy has one of the worlds oldest populations on average, which 10000% contributes to this. Some people think there’s maybe a genetic predisposition to it, some think it’s all just a matter of the number of tests being reported so the mortality numbers will all eventually coalesce.
Most relatively healthy people who end with the a severe/serious case will still survive this (just like the flu) if given the proper medical care. Some won’t, just like the flu too. Old folks, smokers, COPD, diabetics, etc.
We still don’t know why some healthy 20-30 year olds die of flu despite the best care in the world. It still happens, but it’s super rare. So these few young COVID patients we’re starting to hear about may just be the same SOL folks as the flu. Is there a generic predisposition, bad luck? We don’t know.
But it’s a domino effect. If you quarantine and limit travel, you’ll have more resources for the people who are actually sick. So your mortality numbers will be better *if* they have access to care. If the medical system gets overrun, the mortality rate will be closer to Italy’s than SK because of access to care.
China and SK have lower reported mortality numbers, but they’ve also tested more people. Italy is already totally overrun, so their numbers of who they’re reporting is a lot of the serious cases.
I’m no SJW. Hell, the best thing for me personally for my job and financially is for Trump to be in office for life. I just think it’s foolish for people to be dismissive of it. It’s a new thing, and it’s unknown.
My entire livelihood is dependent on me recognizing patterns of disease and pathology and using my brain to make decisions and follow protocols/pathways of treatment. The unknown is scary.
Most relatively healthy people who end with the a severe/serious case will still survive this (just like the flu) if given the proper medical care. Some won’t, just like the flu too. Old folks, smokers, COPD, diabetics, etc.
We still don’t know why some healthy 20-30 year olds die of flu despite the best care in the world. It still happens, but it’s super rare. So these few young COVID patients we’re starting to hear about may just be the same SOL folks as the flu. Is there a generic predisposition, bad luck? We don’t know.
But it’s a domino effect. If you quarantine and limit travel, you’ll have more resources for the people who are actually sick. So your mortality numbers will be better *if* they have access to care. If the medical system gets overrun, the mortality rate will be closer to Italy’s than SK because of access to care.
China and SK have lower reported mortality numbers, but they’ve also tested more people. Italy is already totally overrun, so their numbers of who they’re reporting is a lot of the serious cases.
I’m no SJW. Hell, the best thing for me personally for my job and financially is for Trump to be in office for life. I just think it’s foolish for people to be dismissive of it. It’s a new thing, and it’s unknown.
My entire livelihood is dependent on me recognizing patterns of disease and pathology and using my brain to make decisions and follow protocols/pathways of treatment. The unknown is scary.
Dr. CB say don't eat the pastas. Racist bastard. Don't be jealous of our beautiful complexion.
Yet you still have idiots on FB and Twitter sharing videos of F'ing DR DREW saying Calm down.
OMG EVERYONE WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!!
OMG EVERYONE WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!!
In the event I'm faced with a Doctor choosing me or someone else for a ventilator, what's the non-offensive amount to bribe them with?
Dr. Drew- the guy who introduced himself to America on a show that followed “Singled Out”- that guy, right?
Kid's soccer tournament postponed this weekend. Looks like that frees me up to watch conference tourneys march madness baby whooooooo
I get all of my medical news from pompous radio hosts tbh. I can sum all of this up in two words - DEEP STATE.
You may want to sit down. I have some terrible news for you.
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Just heard on NPR that North Korea has stated they have zero cases of CV, everything is well, and they are completely prepared in the unlikely event someone in their country gets sick.
There ya go, UKO. Positive coverage from the media.
There ya go, UKO. Positive coverage from the media.
So, basically what every single person has been saying for a bit now.
How people react differently to news is pretty fascinating.
My reactions would probably be a lot different if I had kids.
First time in 40 years wcc will have a bracket that doesn’t suck.
All these years and I thought Joey was nothing more than a damn architect.
Trump better come out and say we are not paying any national debt that is currently owed to China. Monkey fu@kers need to pay for this.
I think Trump needs to STFU and let the grownups handle this.
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